Gunther
Propellor Replacement Study. |
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For owners and flyers of Pico-Jet, Pico-Jet Combat, Twin-Jet, Twin-Star, Star-Jet, Zagi Electric, Ripmax Mirage & Teddy Park Fly models etc. |
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| Below is a chart of the various battery and prop combinations
I have used and the results of the ''Kitchen Scale Thrust Testing''
~ Don't let her indoors catch you doing this, especially with i/c models
:o) |
The Thrust Guage used throughout testing.
A reasonably accurate pair of kitchen
scales. The Pico-Jet stood on it's nose on the scales with the lightest
of steadying to stop if falling over. Scales set to zero and power
applied~ Result: A rough guide to the actual thrust given by any battery/propeller
combination relative to each other. |
The Propellers Used in this test.
The Battery Packs used in this test.
The Thrust Chart.
| Battery Used: | Sanyo 8.4V 500mAh NiCad |
Ripmax 8.4V 1100mAh NiCad |
Sanyo 9.6V 500mAh NiCad |
Overlander 9.6V 1300mAh Nimh |
| Weight: | 155g | 200g | 175g | 200g |
| Propeller/Thrust: | ||||
| Gunther | 200g | 200g | 250g | 200g |
| Bow Tie | 200g | 200g | 210g | 200g |
| Thimble Drome | 225g | 225g | 300g | 250g |
| CAM Speed | 225g | 225g | 300g | 250g |
| Windsor | 300g | 300g | 325g | 275g |
| Yellow Bendy | 310g | 300g | 350g | 275g |
| Gunther Reversed: Now you know why it don't work |
80g | 80g | 100g | 90g |
| Also to be added are comparative results from a 480
powered Pico-Jet. Will try to get a tachometer at some point for more
data. Flight speed will have to be determined for yourself with the
combos, I don't know anyone with a Speed Radar Gun. Tests so far on the Twin-Jet using 9.6v 2400mAh pack & dual Graupner 400 motors. Preliminary testing yielded the following results
Flight performance notably improved with FK
bendy props over Gunthers. Send me your feedback or your own findings: Email Chinman Enjoy! |
| Comments left by others... |
Comment by Bob Drinkall on 00000000000000. Rating 2
Would have been more useful if the amp's drawn per prop were recorded. In my test's I found the standard white prop's hard to beat for overall efficiency.Other prop's can give a little more thrust, but use more amp's. Remember you get nothing for nothing! For my test's I use a over head beam frame work, with the motor on test mounted at one end with the other end pushing a rod down onto a pair of digital scales. Thrust,amps & volts were recorded with a range of moters up to 600 size. If you would like to publish the results send me your site e-mail address.
Comment by Peter Gascoine on 00000000000000. Rating none
Thanks for the work. From a flying perspective I have found optimum Picojet performance with a Permax480, 8 cell 800AR, and Ripmax 5X5 black carbon
Comment by Ian Webster on 00000000000000. Rating none
Great article - great website. I'm an ex-pat living in the USA - any idea where/how I can get the yellow bendy prop?
Comment by Bill Gough on 00000000000000. Rating 4
Great article to spark interest in the topic. Easily comprehended, not overly technical. All the hi tech stuff will come to those whose interest is ignited by introductory articles like this one.
Comment by Peter Angus on 00000000000000. Rating none
Static thrust is only half of the story. You should also measure efflux velocity (with a wind meter).
Comment by Dave Fritzke on 00000000000000. Rating 4
KavaN "Bendy props" availabe from Hobby Lobby in the US. (hobby-lobby.com, note the hyphen) I'm ordering some before thay are all gone due to this article! Dave
Comment by Tony Leigh on 00000000000000. Rating 3
Good article, From my own flight testing with a ME163 and Microjet, I have found that a permax 480 7.2 volt motor 8 x 500 AR's and cam 5.5 x 4.3 works best. I have now gone brushless and have found that the Mega 16/15/5 with a 6 x 6 cam prop give excellent performance on 8 cells with reasonable duration (3 mins on 500 ARs 5 mins on Kan 950)
Comment by Engineman on 00000000000000. Rating none
No complaint. Just a different method. I hang a 3ft piece of 2X1 timber from a nail in my garage roof so that it swings. Ihave a 6X6 platform on its bottom and a quadrant of card at the top fixed to a rafter. Strap a plane on the platform and apply full power so that the whole plane flies forward and up until the motor power balances the angle. Mark the position of the pole. Change the prop and try again. A good way of determining the best prop for static thrust.
Comment by ian raw on 00000000000000. Rating none
has anybody fitted a fun 400 brushless into a picojet?i belive these motors are 6 times more powerfull than a standard 480 motor i am thinking of doing so and could do with some tips
Comment by KA on 20040803103333. Rating 3
Good article. I fly a Twinjet with standard 400 motors 7 cell 3000 Mah NiMh have replaced Gunthers with APC (LP 05545) 5.5x4.5 propellors. There is a significant improvement in peformance
Comment by Paul Davison on 20040929205717. Rating 5
Great article but I found the Kavan FK yellow bendy props extremely difficult to come by anywhere on the Internet, then found The Model Shop in Belfast had them in stock, as well as the Graupner domed adaptor
Comment by Flan5ter on 20060307173400. Rating 5
Nice report and really cool way to test the thrust.
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